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From: Mark Roberts <email address>
Subject: MV1034 RE: MV1030; MV1027: turtles
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 09:14:04 +0100
>
>Too right! It should read " as if the car were a turtle dreaming".
>
Is that an Austin Turtle or a Ford Turtle ?
Regards,
Mark Roberts
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:01:20 EDT
Subject: MV1035 Re : MV1032; MV1028; MV1027: Betting on a one-track pony.....
I always play "Black Funk Rex" to the poor devils who can't get out of having
dinner with me even though it's not exactly typical.
Ian C
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:49:17 +0800
From: John Fuery <email address>
Subject: MV1036: VAL DOONICAN FOR PA COVERS ALBUM
Re: VAL DOONICAN FOR PA COVERS ALBUM
Oh dear, following on from Ian Chippett's inspired idea for a PA Top Ten, the
delicious daily e-mail avalanche has dried to a trickle again.
One of the comments I found most perplexing in all of the above was the
MV who took a chunk out of poor old Val Doonican. In fairness (or should that
be fair-isle?) to VD, he was the only mainstream artist (OK, so I'm a bit fast
and loose in my use of the word mainstream) who covered a PA/CJ song. And as
CJ says, his version of FATW probably earned the tuneful twosome more in
royalties than any of the albums ever did. So let's give VD a big Midnight
Voices "Good Guy" badge. Maybe you could coax him out of retirement to do a
support spot at the BOH?
VD's sterling support of PA/CJ and the recent trend for covers/tribute
albums set me thinking about which artist would be best suited to which
PA song. Just to set the ball rolling, here are two thoughts:
Between Us There Is Nothing – Tom Waits (in his more melodic,
pre-SwordfishTrombones incarnation). I think he'd also do terrific justice to
"Thirty Year Man".
Perfect Moment – John Martyn after a bloody big spliff.
If you're sufficiently desperate for something to do, you could also think of
an alternate reality PA covers album in which someone totally inappropiate
covers a song – e.g. the aforementioned VD doing "Rain Wheels".
Anyone out there got any better ideas? As for an ideal PA/CJ
intro song, how about "The Girl With The Pearl Driller's Hands"?
Yours from recession hit Asia
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:09:09 GMT
From: <email address> (Dr Jeremy Walton. Tel: <phone number>
Subject: MV1037 Re: MV1036: VAL DOONICAN FOR PA COVERS ALBUM
Hi John,
>> Anyone out there got any better ideas? As for an ideal PA/CJ
>> intro song, how about "The Girl With The Pearl Driller's Hands"?
Good idea - I think this is the best suggestion so far (probably because
it was chosen to kickoff the purple compilation). It's short, catchy
with an unusual tune and the lyrics are haunting (fancy going off with a
girl just because she had steady hands!)
Cheers,
Jeremy
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From: BSHOLLEY <email address>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:30:01 EDT
Subject: MV1038: Elvis's anniversary 1997
I have been collecting records for 42 years. Sometimes, despite the hundreds
of hours and thousands of tracks sitting on the shelves, I put on a new record
which is instantly recognisable as an essential addition. The Monyash CD is
one of those. Pete's interpretation of those familiar songs is both faithful
and enhancing. The spirit of the originals shines through as nuances in some
of the lyrics suddenly strike sparks in the mind. And I agree with Ian -
'History and Geography' is up there with the best. The words looked
pretentious but the subtle simple setting communicates the feelings of regret
beautifully. Thanks, Steve - for this alone it's all been worth it.
I remember hearing Julie's 'The Magic Wasn't There' a couple of times on
Radio 1. Then late one night on BBC2 I remember seeing her- was it extracts
from the current Cambridge Footlights ? There was a rotund bespectacled
character with receding hair at the piano -a most mature student who seemed to
claim authorship. Julie's performance was wonderful - but I never bought the
single - the beer money was low that weekend. It's worth a tenner now - but
then her first album 'The Beautiful Changes' is changing hands for over £100 -
and worth every penny. Where's the CD of that one ?
Best wishes,
Barry Holley.
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:34:35 EDT
Subject: MV1039: A top 6?
How about a Top 6 albums? The All-TimeTop Fifty Songs should be finished soon
while the Bottom 3 has met an underwhelming response (one's innate good taste
of course plus the knowledge that someone is listening.) 8-)).
If you want a hint on how to go about it, start with the one you like least
and work upwards by elimination. Who wants to kick off?
Ian C
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From: Dave Jones <email address>
Subject: MV1040 RE: MV1034; MV1030; MV1027: turtles
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:15:35 -0400
>>
>>Too right! It should read " as if the car were a turtle dreaming".
>>
>Is that an Austin Turtle or a Ford Turtle ?
If memory serves, back then there was the Austin Turtle, also
available as the Morris Turtle, the MG Racing Tortoise (with
go-faster stripes), and the Riley Terrapin.
Dreams available at extra charge.
Dave Jones
I-Spy in Rochester NY.
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From: Dave Jones <email address>
Subject: MV1041 RE: MV1035; MV1032; MV1028; MV1027: Betting on a one-trackpony.....
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:47:39 -0400
>From: IChippett <email address>
>Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:01:20 EDT
>Subject: Re : MV1032 Re: MV1028; MV1027: Betting on a one-track pony.....
>
>I always play "Black Funk Rex" to the poor devils who can't get out of having
>dinner with me even though it's not exactly typical.
Must be fun turning it into French for them...
Dave Jones
Lost in translation in Rochester NY
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From: "lynn sheppard" <email address>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:46:35 +0000
Subject: MV1042 Re: MV1040; MV1034; MV1030; MV1027: turtles
What are they putting in th Rochester NY water?..... and can we have
some?
Lynn from Waterlooville (yes really!)
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:26:29 EDT
Subject: MV1043: A Top 6? Great idea!
O.K. I'll start. I've ruled out the Monyash ones as they've never been on
general release and the various compilations .
1. A King At Nightfall
2. Secret Drinker
3. Road Of Silk
4. Beware Of The Beautiful Stranger
5. Driving Through Mythical America
6. Live Libel
This is more difficult than the Top 10 because I like 'em all. AKAN is the
Number One because I heard it first and it's the most consistent. ROS has the
best slow songs but is what the French call a "montagne russe" so I put it
after SD which is more consistent but a bit under-produced like BOTBS. DTMA
has some great songs (they all do!) but is not quite so immediate as its
predecessor while LL has to be last despite the presence of Black Funk Rex
which is a masterpiece.
When I saw Pete last all those years ago in Bristol, his final encore was
Touch has a Memory, not the wildest of uptempo rockers, so he might easily
open at Buxton with Wall of Death or Our Lady Lowness. 8-)
Ian C
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From: DangerDon <email address>
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:59:09 EDT
Subject: MV1044 Re: MV1043: A Top 6? (Not So) Great idea!
The top 6 strikes me as being a tad esoteric - i.e. arrange 6 of Pete's 7
albums in your favourite order. What next? Arrange Pete's chord sequences in
descending order of interest? (By the way, mine is the Bflat/Bdim/C sequence
in 'The Road of Silk', but I digress.)
However, in the spirit of positivity, I'd be really interested in other
voices' Top 5 Albums of All Time.
Seeing as we all have PA as one of our favourite artistes, to know the albums
that turn us on might lead to some fascinating discoveries.
I'm just going to sift through my record collection one more time, then I'll
be back...
Don Bowen
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:09:40 +0100
From: S J Birkill <email address>
Subject: MV1045: RealAudio .... Update
I must apologise twice over to those who've attempted to access the latest
music clips, those served directly from the www.rwt.co.uk site.
Firstly, Dave Jones has pointed out a serious difficulty with the .ra files
he's downloaded, rather than played on line. They don't play! This I've
traced to the file settings used in the /real directory for pnm://
streaming. Downloading via a browser (even using <shift-click>) results in
carriage returns being added to the file, it becomes about 1% longer and of
course is no longer a valid RealMedia file. Downloading via binary ftp
overcomes this. I regret not having tested this fully before announcing it
to you.
So as a temporary fix (I should find a better way) I've made available
duplicate copies the eleven affected files in an ftp directory. Either:
(a) Use your anonymous ftp client, go to ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/
and download the file(s) of your choice (the complete addresses are:
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/architec.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/amanwhoz.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/icecream.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/joestead.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/magic.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/perfsax.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/segue.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/sessman3.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/sunwas.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/winter.ra
ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/wouldnt.ra), or
(b) Point your Web browser to ftp://ftp.rwt.co.uk/pub/rwt/ra/ and
<shift-click> the appropriate filename to save direct to disk. If you
simply click the name it will download to a temporary file, launch the Real
Player and start playing. But you can still save it from here. Just stop
playback, reset to the beginning of the piece, hit the red 'record' button
and play again, selecting a location to store the file. The default
filename will be the entry in the file's title box, but you can change this
to the DOS-compatible names above if you wish.
Second apology: In investigating this I discovered the RealServer at
Digiserve (who host the RWT pages) had again gone belly-up, so the clips
will have been unplayable for a few days. So it's not your fault after all!
Hear them now, (while it lasts?) at:
http://www.rwt.co.uk/architec.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/amanwhoz.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/icecream.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/joestead.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/magic.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/perfsax.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/segue.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/sessman3.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/sunwas.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/winter.ram
http://www.rwt.co.uk/wouldnt.ram
or use the 'play' icons on the Discography pages.
Enough!
-- S
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 04:55:28 EDT
Subject: MV1046: Top 50
Here's the Top 50 as promised. My fellow Voice Richard Corfield is currently
working on a more statistically correct version of the Top Ten which should be
available soon. I found a number of errors in my arithmetic which change
things slightly but not significantly.
1. Faded Mansion On The Hill
2. Girl On The Train
3. Thirty Year Man
4. Thief In The Night
5. Beware Of The Beautiful Stranger
6. Perfect Moments
7. History And Geography
8. Payday Evenings
9. Canoe
10.Flowers And The Wine
11.Hypertension Kid
Senior Citizens
Sunlight Gate
14.Between Us There Is Nothing
15.Sessionman's Blues
16.Tonight Your Love Is Over
17.Carnations On The Roof
18.Wristwatch For A Drummer
19.A King At Nightfall
20.The Prince Of Aquitaine
21.Ballad Of An Upstairs Window
Secret Drinker
23.Tongue-tied
Touch Has A Memory
25.Last Hill
26.I See The Joker
27.The Double Agent
28.Shadow And The Widower
An Array Of Passionate Lovers
Sunrise
31.The Pearl Driller
Lady Of A Day
Master Of The Revels
No Dice
35.The Hollow And The Fluted Night
Practical Man
37.Search And Destroy
You Can't Expect To Be Remembered
National Steel
40.Rain-Wheels
Tenderfoot
42.Carecharmer Sleep
43.Screen Freak
Laughing Boy
45.The Beautiful Changes
Errant Knight
47.Rider To The World's End
48.Road Of Silk
49.Driving Through Mythical America
Where Have They All Gone?
Little Sammy Speedball
Have You Got A biro (sic) I Can Borrow?
1. 67 different songs were submitted in all, an incredible number which just
shows how little bread there is in the sausage.
2. The most voted for song was Girl On The Train (20 voters).
3. The only unvoted for songs on the first 5 albums were Luck Of The Draw and
Our Lady Lowness.
4. If anybody wants to check the votes again, feel free to do so.
Coming soon: the Top 6 Albums.
Ian C
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 04:55:29 EDT
Subject: MV1047: top 6 albums
If we take the number of votes per album as revealed by the votes for the Top
10 songs, this gives a Top 6 albums as follows:
1. Driving Through Mythical America 570 votes
2. Beware Of The Beautiful Stranger 493 votes (Touch Has A Memory version)
463 votes (Be Careful version)
3. A King At Nightfall 474 votes
4. Road Of Silk 392 votes
5. Secret Drinker 237 votes
6. Live Libel 60 votes
Ian C
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:49:25 EDT
Subject: MV1048: Top Ten Stop Press
Thanks to Derek Davis's late entry the Top Ten has undergone a slight but
considerable amendment in that Girl On The Train just edges into the Number
One slot by one point ahead of Faded Mansion!
We may now observe that BOTBS has 2 songs, DTMA 3, AKAN 1, ROS 2 SD none, LL
none and Monyash 2 songs in the temporarily definitive list.
And, Dave Jones, you're quite right, how can one translate "and the singer is
a prick" into faultless French without lapsing into vulgarity?
Ian C
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:59:34 +0100
From: S J Birkill <email address>
Subject: MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
http://www.rwt.co.uk/pacjboh.jpg
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From: <email address>
Subject: MV1050 RE: MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:00:22 +0100
Beware of the Beautiful(?) Strangers
Neil Norman
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:35:07 +0100
From: Roy Brown <email address>
Subject: MV1051 Re: MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
>Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:59:34 +0100
>From: S J Birkill <email address>
>Subject: MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
>
>http://www.rwt.co.uk/pacjboh.jpg
>
Pete: 'At last! Now I've got this ventriloquist's dummy of Clive James,
I can put words into *his* mouth.........'
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Affirm Ltd Email : <email address>
<postal address> 'Have nothing on your systems that you do not
know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful.'
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From: IChippett <email address>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:29:11 EDT
Subject: MV1052 Re : MV1050; MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
"My agent never said anything about Val Doonican opening!"
"Look, it's only for the Midnight Voices. Even if they find Buxton, they'll be
too drunk to notice."
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 23:37:54 +0100
Sender: Evelyn Murray <email address>
Subject: MV1053 Re: MV1049: Caption competition anyone?
When two tribes go to war........
--
Evelyn
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