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Leslie Moss
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #40: 27.02.11 at 06:52 » |
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Prompted by this thread I went to Youtube and found the CB&S version (thanks to Kevin Cryer for posting it). What an incredible performance of an incredible song. It is particularly pleasing to see that a new song has broken through rather than endless revisitings of the old material.
In the Cool of the Day is pretty special too.
Leslie
(who got up early to do an on-line Open University assignment only to find that their server had gone down and as it was too late to go back to bed has been catching up on MV, Youtube et al)
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Gerry Smith
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #41: 28.02.11 at 00:46 » |
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Blimey, Leslie! Talk about the eternal student! Thought you had just finished a physics degree?
Maybe see you at Eastbourne, asignments allowing  ?
Best
Gerry
PS - off topic, did a folk gig the other week and bloke asked if we did 'The Maids of Mitchelstown'. Well, we didn't but i've had a listen to a fantastic version of it on Spotify. Search on 'Maids of Mitchelstown' and listen to the Declan Masterson version. Simply beautiful.
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Leslie Moss
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #42: 05.03.11 at 05:51 » |
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Same degree I'm afraid - hoping to graduate next year.
When's Eastbourne?
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Leslie Moss
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #43: 05.03.11 at 05:57 » |
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Sorry, don't answer that - got the answer from the Smash Flops front page.
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James Clifford
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #44: 20.07.11 at 07:05 » |
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I’m new here – please re-route me if the answer is elsewhere...
I live in Steyr, Austria and have contact with KZ Mauthausen Komitee (Mauthausen Concentration Camp Committee). They often have remembrance events here at which it would be good to play “Hill of little shoes”. I have the CB+S CD version. This is used in the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CghzuhZOGAI uploaded by “kevcryan” which I would like to pass on to the Mauthausen Committee.
Could somebody please advise me how to do this without falling into copyright or other legal loopholes?
Thanks - James
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S J Birkill
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #45: 24.07.11 at 10:40 » |
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New member james_c wrote:
on 20.07.11 at 07:05, james_c wrote:| Could somebody please advise me how to do this without falling into copyright or other legal loopholes? |
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It seem to me that most of YouTube is copyright infringement to a greater or lesser degree of blatency, and often silently tolerated by the copyright holders as it generates valuable publicity for their work without giving away the full-resolution version. Rather like my inclusion of low-bitrate song clips in the (since outmoded) RealAudio format on the PA Website, but not (except in a few specially approved cases) a higher quality MP3 version.
But taking an audio or video file out of that 'sheltered' context and playing it at a public event surely places it squarely back in the mainstream of rights law, requiring the permissions of all the parties (artist, writer, publisher, owner) and probably public performance licensing too. I haven't personally delved into copyright law, but I'd imagine there are few if any exemptions and that this would apply to video installations at galleries as well as James' proposal for the KZ Mauthausen remembrance exhibition.
Has anyone here experience of such use? Any thoughts, Kevin? Any suggestions on procedure, Pete?
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Pete Atkin
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #46: 24.07.11 at 10:59 » |
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The licensing of copyright works for public performance is pretty much worldwide except perhaps for China and one or two other places whose identity would be no great surprise, so I'd be confident that Austria is among the participating countries. And if the Austrian copyright organisation is anything like as vigilant as the PRS here I would imagine that any venue which regularly admits the public would be appropriately licensed. The easiest thing would be simply to ask them. It is ultimately their responsibilty.
(By the way and for what it's worth, the compiler of the YouTube versions has edited off the final verse, insensitively and damagingly in my view.)
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James Clifford
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #47: 25.07.11 at 09:17 » |
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Thanks Steve and Pete
I’ll contact AKM here in Austria - it’s the equivalent of the PRS in the UK. I am an AKM member, as I am a singer-songwriter. However, all this “rights” stuff is new to me.
As you say, Pete, it’s a pity the end of the song has been cut from the video – and in such a way. However, as a poignant piece of work for people here, it still works.
In case you’re interested, some of my stuff is on http://www.jamesclifford.at/music2.html including a new UK national anthem about the arms trade – it’s on the youtube link: “God save us all”
Best wishes - James
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andyw
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Re: Hill of little shoes
« Reply #48: 05.07.12 at 21:25 » |
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Just to report that Mike Harding played the C B & S version of "A Hill Of Little Shoes" on his BBC Radio 2 programme on Wednesday 4th July 19.00 - 20.00. Mike's fulsome praise as usual for this track. Credit (in part) was given, namely that this was based on a "poem" by Clive James.
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