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Pete Atkin
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #80: 15.11.07 at 23:01 » |
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I think you deserve a prize, Jan (I said 'deserve', not 'are going to get') for being the first to spot the Master Of The Revels sample - or the first to mention it, at least. And you've got me thinking about a piano-less Thirty Year Man: it would have to be an orchestral arrangement, so it's likely to remain theoretical, but I think it could work. And as for Sessionman's Blues, the original didn't have any tenor sax on it; and on the many occasions I've sung it live, it didn't have any sax at all.
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Jan
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #81: 15.11.07 at 23:52 » |
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on 15.11.07 at 23:01, Pete Atkin wrote:| you've got me thinking about a piano-less Thirty Year Man |
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Aarghh!!!
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On one memorable occasion it didn't have any keyboard either
(you'd have to be real anorak to know that  )
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Avner Greenberg
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #82: 02.12.07 at 21:08 » |
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Midnight Voices vol.1 SOLD OUT !!
Now wouldn’t that be something.
If you’ve received Pete’s recent newsletter you’ll be aware that he is still far from covering the production costs of the universally acclaimed Midnight Voices Songbook vol. 1. That strikes me as a crying shame, and does not bode well for the prospects of hearing a volume 2.
So, folks, what can be done about this? Pin our hopes on the miraculous appearance of some latter-day Medici? Wait patiently for UNESCO to declare Hillside Music a World Cultural Heritage Site? Or each of us order one more copy of MV vol.1 before that SOLD OUT sign is posted on the Hillside Music On-Line Shop?
Just think, you could change someone’s life by giving them this CD!
It’s only 22 days to Christmas, 137 days to Passover, 303 days to Eid el Fitr and 331 days to Diwali. Not to mention that upcoming birthday, wedding anniversary, confirmation, bar-mitzvah, Ascot ball, Buckingham Palace garden party, etc.
Happy shopping.
Reminder: Any purchase in excess of 500 pounds must be reported to the Sun and the Daily Mail.
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Ian Chippett
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #83: 03.12.07 at 18:16 » |
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Avner wrote:
<<If you’ve received Pete’s recent newsletter you’ll be aware that he is still far from covering the production costs of the universally acclaimed Midnight Voices Songbook vol. 1. That strikes me as a crying shame, and does not bode well for the prospects of hearing a volume 2.>>
I have to admit guiltily that I still haven't ordered mine yet: a self-imposed ban on any record-buying till 2008 in order to keep the wolf (the Frog Tax authorites) from the door has seen to that but "au diable l'avarice!" as they say over here: the self-imposed ban is about to lifted and my order will be on its way.
Ian C
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Ian Ashleigh
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #84: 05.12.07 at 21:55 » |
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The CD is wonderful, its a shame that sales have not made it viable yet - hopefully it will go on general relase, reach a wider audience and pay for itself.
Maybe, as the top 40 now includes downloads, we could co-ordinate a download en masse and get a PA/CJ song in the top 40. Is it ethical for me to suggest this?
Ian
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Though he had no great gifts of personality or mind, he was quite well respected.
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hannibalmcnee
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #85: 10.12.07 at 04:44 » |
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Only one thing is going to get the sales up and that's promotion.
At the moment, the only people who know about the album are people who are already fans of Pete's work, and even then, only the fans who make a point of regularly visiting the site. My father's been a huge fan for decades, but he NEVER visits the site, so he hasn't the faintest idea there's a new album out.
It's going to make a nice surprise when I buy it for him for Christmas, but my point is that there are many like him. Not to mention all the thousands of people I know would love the music, but have never had the opportunity to hear it.
Now, the album will sell. Even if it's only available through the website, with no promotion except the limited word of mouth amongst us die-hard fans. It will sell, but it will take FOREVER.
You want strong, fast sales, enough to justify going back into the studio for another volume, it's going to take promotion, going out there, finding a new audience, getting the music heard by music journalists, broadcasters, etc. Another tour would be good, obviously. Perhaps with a stop in East Yorkshire (hint hint).
I hope I'm only saying things that everybody connected with the album already knows and that in the new year, when it goes on wider release, we will see the level of promotion and subsequent sales that it so clearly deserves.
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Pete Atkin
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #86: 10.12.07 at 14:08 » |
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We are and will be doing our best, believe me. (And I do appreciate hugely your belief in what we've produced that makes you want to see it succeed.) The redoubtable Hayley Redmond will swing into intensive action as soon as we fix the official release date (currently itself dependent on fixing one or two key gigs) and attempt to get as much airplay as possible and as many reviews as possible in as many media as possible. Having learned from The Lakeside Sessions that doing nothing does nothing and that, mightily valuable as they are, the purchasing Midnight Voices themselves aren't as yet numerous enough to make a difference, I sent out a hundred or more promotional copies of Winter Spring myself with absolutely no effect whatsoever. It's so easy now to make well-recorded 'professional-looking' CDs, and so many people are spraying them around hopefully, that without back-up PR effort they just get chucked in the bin by producers and editors without a second look. So I learned from that that it's going to take more time, effort, and knowledge than I have myself if we're to get anywhere. Hence Hayley. Stay tuned for news.
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Jon Philpot
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #87: 22.02.08 at 19:56 » |
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Kevin Cryan's post elsewhere on this website about the review of Clive's 'Cultural Amnesia' on Amazon prompted me to search for 'Pete Atkin'. I was surprised to see that 'Midnight Voices' was already listed there as available - since 18 Feb 2008. No reviews yet so those of you more erudite than myself might like to rectify this?
Jon
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Pete Atkin
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #88: 01.03.08 at 08:53 » |
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The official launch of the MV CD is on Tuesday March 11th. It's impossible to tell what kind of a response we'll get (almost anything will be an advance on previous efforts), but it helps to pin it to a specific event and date, even though the old notion of a release date doesn't mean much; as Jon has noticed, it's available as soon as retailers have access to it from the distributors.
So far I can tell you that the April edition of The Word magazine (available in just a week or so's time) will, I believe, include a feature in which Clive and I each respond to a list of questions about our songwriting and about songs in general. With luck we may even manage to get a track on the cover CD of the May edition, but that's not yet certain.
Oh, and it looks as if there'll be a piece on Front Row on BBC Radio 4 at 1915 on Monday March 10th (Mark Lawson interview with Clive and me).
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Mike Walters
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #89: 01.03.08 at 20:09 » |
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Excellent news about The Word, I think - it strikes me as the perfect medium for raising awareness of Pete's work among those who might unaccountably have missed it first time round or who might recall the 1970s stuff but who may still be unaware of the more recent activity. I say this on the assumption that I'm fairly typical of those who buy the magazine, in terms of age and musical interests. But I think that's not an unreasonable assumption.
And I suspect that if Pete does manage to get a track on one of the magazine's generally excellent free CDs, that would help the mighty Hillside corporation to shift a few units.
Mike
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Kevin Cryan
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I love Midnight Voices!
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #90: 02.03.08 at 13:48 » |
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on 05.02.08 at 13:39, Kevin Cryan wrote:
I should have made it clear at the time that David Hepworth is your average Word blogger. He is in fact a founding editor of the magazine.
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David Hepworth (born 27th July 1950 in Dewsbury, Yorkshire) is a journalist and music writer responsible for the launch of many British magazines.
He attended the Queen Elizabeth School, Wakefield and Trent Park College of Education, Barnet. He then worked in record shops and for the London office of Beserkley Records, before becoming a freelance journalist.
After working at the music magazines NME and Sounds, he joined the newly-launched Smash Hits magazine in 1979, and two years later became its editor. In 1983 he started Just Seventeen, a perennially popular magazine for teenage girls, and in 1984 the magazine Looks.
Since then he has launched several further magazines in the entertainment field including Q (1985), More (1987), Empire (1988), Mojo (1993), Heat (1999), and The Word (2003).
He is the only person to have won both the Periodical Publishers Association's writer of the year and editor of the year award, and in 2004 he released a book The Secret History of Entertainment.
In the early 1980s he had a short period as presenter of the BBC music show Old Grey Whistle Test.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hepworth"
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Kevin Cryan
PS. A few of the Wikipedia links do not work.
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Kevin Cryan
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #91: 19.03.08 at 07:36 » |
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on 02.03.08 at 13:48, Kevin Cryan wrote:
I should have made it clear at the time that David Hepworth is your average Word blogger. He is in fact a founding editor of the magazine.
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Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hepworth"
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PS. A few of the Wikipedia links do not work.
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I've just noticed that Clive has recently added David as a "prose find" to the Prose Finds section of his www.clivejames.com site.
Kevin Cryan
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Kevin Cryan
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #92: 19.03.08 at 11:05 » |
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on 19.03.08 at 07:36, Kevin Cryan wrote:
It still astounds me how quickly news gets around on the net.
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AND ANOTHER THINGDAVID HEPWORTH . NOTHING GOES TO WASTE
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 19, 2008
Man about town
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........ It's very nice of Clive James to say something flattering about my piece on The Wire though he reckons the white out of black design of this blog makes it hard to read. Normally I'm very careful about this kind of thing but I've never had any trouble dealing with it. Anyone else reaching for the pince-nez?
POSTED BY DAVID HEPWORTH AT 8:32 AM
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Rob Spence
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #93: 20.03.08 at 13:06 » |
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Just loaded the CD into i-Tunes, and noticed that under "genre" every song is listed as "unclassifiable". Well, yes, quite.
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Ian Ashleigh
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #94: 20.03.08 at 13:10 » |
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Rob
Windows Media Player does that to most of the music that I load on to it  .
It didn't find the cover art for Midnight Voices either.
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Though he had no great gifts of personality or mind, he was quite well respected.
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Rob Spence
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #95: 20.03.08 at 13:34 » |
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on 20.03.08 at 13:10, Ian Ashleigh wrote:Rob
Windows Media Player does that to most of the music that I load on to it .
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Well, that's Windows  for you. Looking down the Pete Atkin playlist on my computer, I see that, as well as unclassifiable, he's "folk" (Road of Silk/ King at Nightfall), "pop" (Secret Drinker / Live Libel/BOTBS/Driving Through Mythical America) "blues" (Lakeside Sessions) and "chanson" (Winter Spring) though I think I put that last one in.
Should have a broad appeal, this Atkins bloke 
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Bogus Trumper
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #96: 21.03.08 at 17:48 » |
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on 20.03.08 at 13:34, Rob Spence wrote:
Should have a broad appeal, this Atkins bloke
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Never 'eard of 'im.
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S J Birkill
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #97: 23.03.08 at 10:36 » |
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High praise to member Philip Winter for being the first to write a review of MV for amazon.co.uk.
This kind of thing really does help raise awareness and sales, and it's hard to overdo it -- more reviews wouldn't hurt, there and anywhere else which accepts customer comments. Remember when mail order operator Magpie stocked the first SFM CD (BotBS/DTMA), which became their on-line bestseller for weeks in a row, the reviews stretched right down the page.
Of course, other kinds of publicity push can easily be overdone: radio exposure is especially valuable, but if I were to suggest (for instance) that you wrote to Radio 2's daytime presenters suggesting such-and-such (or even any) track be played, chances are more than one of you would respond eagerly, and at about the same time. Unfortunately, radio producers have a keen eye for anything that smacks of a coordinated publicity campaign, so such an initiative would get us precisely nowhere, or even set back the probability of airplay. What works in their world is a genuine background seethe of demand, which just bubbles casually past their awareness threshold a few times in a while. And that's not the kind of thing a forum like ours can orchestrate -- it has to arise spontaneously.
So, all I can really ask at this point is, keep those on-line reviews coming!
Steve
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Pete Atkin
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #98: 26.03.08 at 11:50 » |
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Many a thank to Steve for pointing this stuff out; it really is a way you can help to make a difference. It may also be worth pointing out that you don't have to have bought the record from Amazon in order to post a review.
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Paul Leighton
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Re: Midnight Voices - the CD
« Reply #99: 27.03.08 at 11:32 » |
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Full marks to Steve for having nudged us in the direction of on-line reviews. It seems an age since I wrote a piece about the Lakeside Sessions for Amazon: I had been meaning to produce a review of Midnight Voices ever since I first put it into my CD player! Having taken his reminder to heart, I have rectified my omission!!
And the next one please......
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